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These convert spatial boundary into time.

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Ketverybė - "kodėl" - tinklas ryšių tarp daiktų. Penkerybė - laikas grindžia seką, erdvinis išsidėstymas grindžia medį.

Penkerybėje 2+3=5 atsitokėjimas-teorija gali eiti pirmyn ir atgal bet įsijautimas-praktika nėra kaip grįžti.

Žinoma pasekmė turi žinomą priežastį, bet nežinomos priežasties nežinomos pasekmės. Yra žinojimo apimtis.

Susapnavau - Sid turi namus Maliazijoje. Ar jis ten yra ar nėra? Atsisakyti laiko - unfolding. Tada galime apskaičiuoti jog yra galimybė, kad jis gali ten atsirasti.

Expected cause and effect - desired cause and effect.

Our mind shifts from same (time) to different (space). But also from free will (space - we set the boundary between our self and our world) and fate (time).

Coordination of individual constructive times and spaces - we construct our own time - then start to construct for the world - then need to coordinate with other individuals likewise about our understanding of the world - and our particular culture mediates that.

Macroscopic view - time: single past - many possible futures. Microscopic view - time flows in the opposite direction: multiple possibilities - multiple pasts - single future. Quantum lens that relates these two worlds. Single macroscopic world - multitude of microscopic worlds.

Planck constant - information and action. Information - space, action - time.

Action = Unit of Acting = Knowledge minus knowledge

Increasing action = increasing information.

Erdvė ir laikas

Dabartis, tai sutapimas. Sutapimas išnyksta laike, jei priežastis ir pasėkmės atskiriamos dabarties.

Penkerybė yra du teigiamai apibrėžti požiūriai - dvejybė, du neigiamai apibrėžti požiūriai - dvejybė, ir jų poslinkis - bendras tačiau skirtingom kryptim, žiūrinti ar teigiamai-vidumi ar neigiamai-išore.

Penkerybė - laikas-erdvė - lokališkumas (dangaus karalystė).

Penkerybė išsako ribą tarp savęs ir pasaulio.

Dabartis (ar riba) sieja dvi laiko (ar erdvės) kryptis. Dabartimi, aš esu priežastis, aprėptis, kuria pasekmė tampa tokia būtent dabar, mano aprėptyje. Užtat ir sutampa priežastis (už aprėpties) ir padarinys (aprėptyje).

Ar galime laukti amžinai? Tolimu laiku (nekiekviena priežastis jau turėjo savo pasekmes) galime laukti ilgiau nė gyvenimiška.

(Šviesuolių bendrystės) kūryba vis turiningiau skaido erdvę, sandarą. O susikalbėjimas vyksta laiku. Pavyzdžiui, muzika, kalbos vyksta laike. Bet gaidų šaltiniai išsiskiria erdvėje.

Penkerybė - pakeičia santykį su savo aplinka

Penkerybė yra brandos sandara, kuria apibrėžtumas (artima ateitis -> artima praeitis) pakeičiamas neapibrėžtumu (tolima praeitis -> tolima ateitis). Tai dvejybės krypties apvertimas. Bręstame priimdami daugiau dviprasmybės, gyvendami labiau klausimais nė atsakymais. Bręstame laiku ir erdve. Neapibrėžtumas yra tolimoje ateityje, dar neįvykusioje, neišsipildžiusioje, tad atskirtoje nuo tolimos praeities. Vėlgi, tai skirtumas tarp "amžinojo gyvenimo" ir "gyvenimo". Branda veda iš gyvenimo (atgal) į amžiną gyvenimą (pirmyn).

Neurons that fire together wire together. Neuronai visi siunčia signalus, tik vieni daug rečiau, kiti daug dažniau.

Penkerybė išsako, kaip santvarka susiskaido į artimesnę ir tolimesnę aplinką (praeitį ir ateitį). Penkerybė išsako dvasios santykį su sandara (kaip kad išeinant už savęs), išsako santykį su posantvarka, tai yra, su mažesnės apimties santvarka. Taip kad sukuriama geometrija reikalinga lūkesčiams, reikalinga dangaus karalystei, reikalinga lygčiai 5+3=0. Parinktys (initial conditions) esant laiko simetrijai (determinizmui) nusako tiek praeitį, tiek ateitį. Tad skirtumas tarp priežasties ir pasekmės (laiko kryptingumas) yra kas kita, yra santykis tarp tos dvasios (priežasties) už santvarkos ir tai kas joje, jos sandaros. Tad klausimas, kaip sustatoma, apibrėžiama ir išlaikoma posantvarka. Tai laikinas dalykas. Užtat laiko (ir erdvės) kryptis grindžiama taip: žinojimas seka nežinojimą. Tad "kiekviena pasekmė turi savo priežastį" seka "dar ne kiekviena priežastis turėjo savo pasekmes", tai kryptingumas penkerybėje. Tai yra 4+1=5, ryšys tarp žinojimo ir sprendimo.

Dievo laiko kampai (ateitis, praeitis, mūsų laisva valia, likimas) priklauso nuo trejybės. O mes sujungiame tuos laiko kampus. Dievas yra vienas mumis.

The fivesome is the [DivisionsOfEverything division of everything] into five perspectives. This structure defines issues of decision. The fivesome has two representations: time and space. The main idea is that every effect has a cause, but not every cause has yet had its effect. Our practical perspective takes us from the effect (that we wish or not) backwards to its cause. In the case of time, this takes us from the immediately relevant "near future" to the immediately relevant "near past". However, as the distance between effect and cause becomes greater and greater, at a certain reversal point we start to concern ourselves with causes that have not yet had their effects, we take up a theoretical perspective. In the case of time, we go from a "distant past" towards a "distant future". Instead of particular cause-effect relationships, with effect leading back to cause, we now consider general cause-effect relationships, with cause taking us forward to effect. What drives this reversal is that in leading backwards, effect and cause are of the same kind, both are defined, but when we move forwards, cause and effect are of different kinds, because the cause is defined and the effect is not defined. It takes more energy for our minds to think of perspectives as the same rather than as different. Therefore our mind moves readily from the practical to the theoretical direction of causality. As it does so, there is a reversal point where either direction makes sense. In the case of time, this is the "present". The key to all decision making is the existence of this reversal point, because it says that we can move from one direction to another in a continuous manner, there being a point where both directions coexist. At that "point of decision" we can straightforwardly switch directions, we can "make a decision" as to whether we're looking to cause an effect, or effect a cause. In other words, the fivesome is what allows for continuity, which is key for decision making. We can also represent this spatially, where causes are understood as being outside of effects. Whether or not there is a "system boundary" - a reversal point - depends on whether or not the effect is already defined. If the effect is already defined, then there is no system boundary between it and its cause, but if it is not defined, then there is a system boundary between it and its cause. Also, I think that the fivesome describes the "reflection effect" by which reflection reverses mental movement, but I still need to work this out. [3/01, Andrius Kulikauskas]

The fivesome's directions are God's from question to answer (eternal life) and Human's from answer to question (life).

4+1=5

See also: {{Foursome}}, {{Fivesome}}, AddOne, LogicOfJesus, GrowthOfConcern, MergingPerspectives, LogicOfHeartAndWorld


Fivesome: God is his own restriction

The fivesome is the structure by which God makes better sense of his situation. It arises when God asks himself Am I able to consider the question?

5) God looks at himself looking at himself looking at himself looking at himself looking at himself from the side: "I allow for restricted unrestriction". And he reinterprets the previous perspectives: "I allow for unrestricted effects", "I allow for restricted effects", "I allow for restricted causes", "I allow for unrestricted causes".

This is the relationship between what we know and don't know.

What we know is given by: "every effect has had its cause". What we don't know is given by: "not every cause has had its effect". And then there is the relationship between what we know and don't know, so they are parallel, and either one may lead to the other.

So the fivesome brings together the known effect, the known cause, the unknown cause, the unknown effect and the point of ambiguity.

There are representations in terms of time and space. In time, there is a definite move from the unknown to the known. In time, there is only learning. This gives God's perspective, where he is not able to consider the question. God does not go back on what he knows. But in space, there is a possible move from the known to the unknown. In space, things may be suspect. The known system, with the known cause and known effect, may become unknown if it is understood within a larger system. This is the human perspective.

This is a going beyond, but within the system, across a boundary.

To go from unknown to known is to increase scope. To go from known to unknown is to decrease scope.

We find the known in our knowledge of everything, anything or something. We find the unknown in our knowledge of anything, something or nothing.

The unknown that came from the known is bad will (evil), error (sin), loss (death).

Here are some thoughts on the fivesome:

Structural note: This structure relates love and everything.

God is good. Understanding this is eternal life. Eternal life is the goodness of God.

Understanding unfolds from God. Understanding concludes that God is good.

We may take as given that God is good, and work backwards, towards God. We assume the goodness of God, we look backwards, and we realize that life is the goodness of God. Life is the fact that God is good. Or we may take God as given, and work forwards, towards the goodness of God. God looks forwards to eternal life, and we may believe that eternal life is the goodness of God. Eternal life is the understanding that God is good. [Compare looking and "seeing" backwards with looking and "not seeing" forwards].

Life is the degenerate union of two concepts, goodness and God, in that it is a third concept which expresses their coming together, but does not consider each of them separately. Life is an abbreviation. Good and God are in life, but it does not know that.

Eternal life is the nondegenerate union of two concepts, goodness and God, in that it brings them together, but keeps them distinct, and may consider how each participates separately. Good and God are in life, and it knows both of them.

This is a key difference, and it is all in the mind, and difficult to talk about. The mind likes to collapse concepts. But there is wisdom in keeping them distinct. We look backwards, and think that "every effect has had its cause". But God looks forwards, and thinks that "not every cause has had its effect". [Consider the two axes of the foursome, fivesome, sixsome.] We look backwards, as if looking at God, as if at death, our own disintegration, rather than forward towards our further co-creation.

God's view forwards is that of increasing slack. Our view backwards is that of decreasing slack. God sees the equation: Eternal life is the goodness of God. And this is the sense in which God truly is good. We see the equation: The goodness of God is life.

Penkerybės atvaizdai

The representations of the fivesome are:

Susapnavau: Įsivaizduojant, kaip taškai erdvėje telkiasi ar nuklysta - pirmiausia, yra dėsnis, kad ko labiau nuklysta taškas, tuo mažesnė tikimybė, kad susitelks su kitais. Ir atvirkščiai. O iš tikrųjų, tuomi pati erdvė keičiasi - vieniems taškams jinai plėtojasi, o kitiems jinai susispaudžia. Bet aš nežinau kokia prasmė viso to.

Užrašai

Laikas ir erdvė iškyla kartu su Dievo išėjimo už savęs, tatai apmąsčius +1. Tai padeda išaiškinti, kaip iš vieningos valios iškyla paskiros valios ir kodėl. Jos išreiškia, kad vieningumas vyksta ne tik visumoje, bet ir kiekvienoje jos dalyje.

5+3=0 jungia laiko ir erdvės atvaizdus

Dviprasmiškas (laikas) + nedviprasmiška (erdvė) = neapibrėžta (nulybė)

Palyginti Judea Pearl "intervention" ir "counterfactuals" primena penkerybės dvi ašis: buvimu ir nebuvimu.

Laiko kryptis


ChristopherLangan writes that an act is a temporal process, and self-inclusion is a spatial relation. The act of self-inclusion is therefore "where time becomes space". He also relates time and {{Self}} in his parable A Very Brief History of Time.

Conic sections, eccentricity. Apskritimas yra kaip taškas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eccentricity.svg

Short exact sequence.

Ar medžiai ar buteliai pripažįsta laiką - akimirką - ar save suvokia nesiribojant akimirka - tad kartu su kitais medžiais - savo sėklomis ir t.t. - su savo šaknų dirvožemiu?

Decisions must be made in the present.

Heidegeris aptaria Čia-esantį, Da-sein, tai Aš - Dievas išėjęs už savęs į save. Tai Dievo Sūnus, susigaudantis, jog jisai yra Dievas.

Gap between time-asymmetric macrodynamics (one science - "not every cause has had its effects") and time-symmetric microdynamics (another science - "every effect has had its cause"). The crucial role of the gap as in pertvarkymai.

Vilija Bortkevičienė: problema, priežastis, pasekmė, išeitis, tikslas. Kaip tai susiję su ketverybe?


2005.04.16 A: Kaip man suvokti penkerybė? D: Mano širdis ieško tavosios. A: O kaip tai susiję su meile? D: Tai yra įsijautimas, žingsnis prieš meilę.

2005.03.14 A: Kaip suvokti penkerybę? D: Kas nors bando tave pasiekt ir paliest ir tu galvoji ar įsileisti. A: Kaip apsisprendi? D: Žiūri ar sprendžiat kartu ar atskirai. A: Geriau kartu. D: Taip.


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