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2022 spalio 26 d., 16:02 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėta 54 eilutė:

|| '''Asmenų Dievo savybės''' || amžinas gyvenimas || išmintis || gera valia || Dievo valia ||

2022 spalio 26 d., 16:01 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėta 42 eilutė:

* 4 asmenų Dievo savybės - Dievo Dievo amžinas gyvenimas, Mano Dievo išmintis, Tavo Dievo gera valia, Kito Dievo Dievo valia

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2022 spalio 01 d., 15:16 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėta 26 eilutė:

Pakeistos 322-325 eilutės iš

* exact - suffering and/or forced to ~~suffer~~

į:

* exact - suffering and/or forced to suffer

[[http://donelaitis.vdu.lt/lkk/pdf/AbcII.pdf | Korpuse aptiktų būdvardžių sąrašas]]

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2022 spalio 01 d., 11:12 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeista 3 eilutė iš:

[[Gyvybės savybės]], [[Ženklų savybės]], [[Viskas]], [[Troškimai]]

į:

[[Gyvybės savybės]], [[Gyvybės dėsniai]], [[Ženklų savybės]], [[Viskas]], [[Troškimai]]

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:49 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėtos 59-60 eilutės:

Vienybė yra visko sandara ir viskas yra vienybės dvasia. Užtat vienybės atvaizdai yra visko savybės. O Dievo sandara yra viskas ir visko atvaizdai yra troškimai. Užtat troškimai yra Dievo savybės.

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:40 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeista 43 eilutė iš:

* 12 gyvybės savybių -

į:

* 15 gyvybės savybių -

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:39 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėta 58 eilutė:

Vienybės atvaizdai yra ketverybės lygmenų neigimo įsisavinimai. Neigimus taiko tiesiogiai sau, priima kaip bylojančius būtent apie save, ne apie santykį su kitais.

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:26 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėta 55 eilutė:

|| '''Ketverybės lygmenų neigimas''' || nenuslepiamas || nepavaizduojamas || nekintantis || neaprėpiamas ||

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:23 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeistos 52-55 eilutės iš

į:

|| '''Apimtys''' || niekas || kažkas || betkas || viskas ||
|| '''Troškimai''' || savarankiškas || užtikrintas || ramus || mylintis ||
|| '''Nulybės atvaizdai''' || tiesus || betarpiškas || pastovus || prasmingas ||
|| '''Vienybės atvaizdai''' || privaloma sąvoka, be pasirinkimo || be vidinės sandaros || be atrankos || be išorinės aplinkos ||

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:18 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeista 50 eilutė iš:

į:

* Vienybės atvaizdai, visko savybės išsako kaip į viską susitelkus nesuveikia mūsų vaizduotės veiksmai

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:11 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeistos 48-49 eilutės iš

* ~~Nulybės atvaizdai~~ išsako kaip ~~Dievą~~ suprantame įvairių apimčių atžvilgiu, sprendžiant iš mūsų stebėjimo

į:

* Troškimai išsako kaip suprantame Dievą jo paties atžvilgiu, įvairiose apimtyse, sprendžiant iš jo tariamos veiklos, jo pastraukimo, jo išėjimo už savęs į save
* Nulybės atvaizdai išsako kaip suprantame Dievą mums atrodantį įvairių apimčių atžvilgiu, sprendžiant iš mūsų stebėjimo

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:05 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeistos 45-54 eilutės iš

'''~~Savybės ir Atvaizdai~~'''

į:

'''Savybių santykiai'''

* Nulybės atvaizdai išsako kaip Dievą suprantame įvairių apimčių atžvilgiu, sprendžiant iš mūsų stebėjimo
*

'''Savybės ir atvaizdai'''

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:02 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeista 24 eilutė iš:

* [[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/properties/ | Standford encyclopedia: ~~Property~~]]

į:

* [[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/properties/ | Standford encyclopedia: Properties]]

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 15:02 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeista 24 eilutė iš:

* [[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/properties/ | ~~Stanford~~ encyclopedia: Property]]

į:

* [[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/properties/ | Standford encyclopedia: Property]]

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 14:42 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėtos 23-24 eilutės:

* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_(philosophy) | Wikipedia: Property]]
* [[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/properties/ | Stanford encyclopedia: Property]]

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 14:29 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėta 15 eilutė:

* Kaip susijusios Dievo savybės ir visko savybės?

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 14:25 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėtos 14-21 eilutės:

* Kas turi savybes?

Būdvardžiai
* Kaip savybės atsisipindi būdvardžiuose?
* Kokių yra būdvardžių?
* Kokia būdvardžių daryba?

Pasiskaityti apie savybes

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 13:49 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeista 5 eilutė iš:

'''Kas yra savybės'''

į:

'''Kas yra savybės?'''

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 13:49 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėta 10 eilutė:

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Ištrinta 11 eilutė:

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 13:48 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pridėta 19 eilutė:

* dalinis apibrėžimas

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 13:43 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeistos 3-4 eilutės iš

[[Gyvybės savybės]], [[Ženklų savybės]] ~~PropertiesOfEverything~~, ~~PropertiesOfGod~~, ~~Qualities, {{Everything}}~~

į:

[[Gyvybės savybės]], [[Ženklų savybės]], [[Viskas]], [[Troškimai]]

Pakeista 18 eilutė iš:

~~Properties~~

į:

Savybės

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2022 rugsėjo 30 d., 13:42 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -

Pakeistos 1-2 eilutės iš

~~Žr.~~ [[Gyvybės savybės]], [[Ženklų savybės]] PropertiesOfEverything, PropertiesOfGod, Qualities, {{Everything}}

į:

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[[Gyvybės savybės]], [[Ženklų savybės]] PropertiesOfEverything, PropertiesOfGod, Qualities, {{Everything}}

'''Kas yra savybės'''

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* Kas yra savybės?

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Pridėtos 26-32 eilutės:

'''Savybių pavyzdžiai'''

* 4 Dievo savybės - troškimai - trokšta nieko (savarankiškas), kažko (užtikrintas), betko (ramus), visko (mylintis)
* 4 visko savybės - vienybės atvaizdai - privaloma sąvoka, be sandaros, be atrankos, be aplinkos
* 6 ženklų savybės - lankstus, pakitus, paslankus, įsimintinas, reiškmingas, prasmingas
* 12 gyvybės savybių -

Ištrintos 33-34 eilutės:

~~See also: {{Representations}}, {{Properties}}~~

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2014 birželio 07 d., 10:54 atliko Andrius Kulikauskas -

Pakeistos 1-2 eilutės iš

PropertiesOfEverything, PropertiesOfGod, Qualities, {{Everything}}

į:

Žr. [[Gyvybės savybės]], [[Ženklų savybės]] PropertiesOfEverything, PropertiesOfGod, Qualities, {{Everything}}

Pakeistos 129-272 eilutės iš

* the Holy Spirit is the coherence of coherence.

į:

* the Holy Spirit is the coherence of coherence.

'''Bevardė savybė (quality without a name)'''

See also: {{Divisions}}, [AddOne operation +1]
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{{Andrius}} [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livingbytruth/message/296 April 7, 2003]

I highly recommend "The Timeless Way of Building" by ChristopherAlexander. It is an architectural design book on the question, What
makes a building "alive"? It was written in 1979 and has the deepest
thoughts I've ever seen on life and living/complex systems.

One of the very first chapters discusses the "quality without a name"
which is had by those things that are alive. He does a fantastic job
showing that no word can quite capture it because the quality is more
precise than words, whereas each word/concept has, of its nature,
divergent meanings.

The seven words/concepts he considers are:

*alive
*whole
*comfortable
*free
*exact
*egoless
*eternal.

And to these we can add an eighth, " ", which is nameless.

I think these eight words/concepts relate directly to Jesus' "I am"
statements, and I am looking for the connection.

They should also be related to the divisions of everything. Christopher
Alexander defines the quality as "free from inner contradictions", where
in particular, we may think (as in architecture) of their being inner
forces that must fit together properly. We may think of these inner
forces as the perspctives within a division of everything.

I suppose that one question is whether those perspectives are a division
of all of everything, or just of something, a "local everything". In
the latter case there are surroundings. I'm thinking that they way to
be "free of inner contradictions" is to resolve them, rather than to not
have them. In the case of divisions of everything, they are resolved
into everything, which is to say, into contradiction itself. Because
everything can be (and is) contradictory, and so they can be resolved
into that. And that resolution can be one of equals. But if they are
only divisions of something, then they must be resolved by their
surrounding, their complement within everything. Such a resolution must
favor one of the forces, perspectives by identifying it with the
surroundings. It is the force that "wins" to the destruction of all.

This would explain that with words we can't know if the system they're
defined within is everything or just something. Words are local, that
is, defined within a domain, however broad, like the epsilons and deltas
in calculus.

So I'll try to go through the qualities and see how they relate to the
divisions. Peace, Andrius

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{{Andrius}}: [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livingbytruth/message/297 April 9, 2003]

I think I'm making progress on these names for "alive", the quality
without a name.

In each "division of everything" into perspectives, I think that there
is one perspective that looks at the unity of the entire division. I
mark them with an asterisk *.

* nullsome { }
* onesome { order* }
* twosome: { opposites co-exist*, all things are the same }
* threesome: { take a stand*, follow through, reflect }
* foursome: {why*, how, what, whether }
* fivesome: { reversal point*, effect, cause of effect, cause, effect of cause }
* sixsome: { strive for the best*, choose the better over the worse, choose the good over the bad, avoid extremes, get more than what you need, cling to what you have }
* sevensome: { choosing*, choosing to go along, choosing to resist, choosing to not resist, choosing to not go along, choosing to choose, choosing to not choose }

Those perspectives are understood to be the source of the
following names for the "quality without a name":

* order => whole
* opposites co-exist => free
* take a stand => eternal
* why => egoless
* reversal point => comfortable
* strive for the best => exact
* choosing => alive

I notice that if such a perspective arises from the inside, from within
the system, then it is "good", truly alive. But if the perspective is
given from the outside, then it is dead, false.

In other words, we may think of the system, the division, as that of
"everything", or only of "something". The perspective of unity reaches
out to everything and beyond. But if the system only covers "something",
then the perspective of unity will introduce an imbalance. It will not
be coherent, for it will subject the system to a force that comes from
beyond it. The perspective will introduce a division of what the system
is accounting for, and what is coming from beyond.

For example, opposites co-existing is "freeing" if it is genuine, if it
shows how the system must ever go beyond itself, because it includes
both that which stays the same, and that which goes beyond it. However,
if we think of "freeness" with regard to a bounded system of
"something", then that freeness will be false, dead, contrived.

The system can be coherent only if it covers all of "everything". Then
any contradictions are not resolved by the surroundings of everything,
rather they are resolved by the contradiction of everything itself.

I need to keep working on this. I should search for a way, how does
structure arise by having a new "perspective of unity" introduced until
it is no longer needed, I think, when we have morality. In other words,
I need to define the operation +1, which is related to "definition" and
the "divisions of everything".

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I had some incomplete but helpful thoughts on how everything unfolds.
I'll jot them down here. Andrius, ms@ms.lt
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{{Andrius}}: [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livingbytruth/message/298 April 10, 2003]

Consider how everything unfolds, in particular, how the inversion of God
might introduce a perspective of unity, and how this might unfold all
structure, and lead to a moral being, and then continue onwards through
the seventh perspective into life, the coherence of the seventh
perspectives. Life is getting engaged, being in suspense, believing,
relying, loving, suffering. How does that relate to the names of the
quality without a name? Perhaps these names are the representations of
life, and "life" is the seventh name, and the quality is nameless? How
do these names relate to the negative commandments?

* whole - engaged and/or forced to get engaged
* free - in suspense and/or forced to be in suspense
* eternal - believing and/or forced to believe
* egoless - relying and/or forced to rely
* comfortable - loving and/or forced to love
* exact - suffering and/or forced to suffer

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2014 birželio 07 d., 10:48 atliko Andrius Kulikauskas -

Pakeistos 9-129 eilutės iš

* are being one's Self, thus not being alone.

į:

* are being one's Self, thus not being alone.

'''Savybės ir Atvaizdai'''

See also: {{Representations}}, {{Properties}}

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{{Andrius}}: [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livingbytruth/message/300 April 14, 2003]

I'm making some more progress. I'm trying to understand how structure
unfolds and coheres. I'm finding a connection between the properties of
a division X and the representations of a division X + 1.

I'm finding that the way to understand structure is to understand the
Spirit beyond it. Here are some basic thoughts.

* God is Spirit.
* Structure is beyond Spirit.
* Good is Spirit in Structure.
* Life is the coinciding of the Spirit outside structure, and the Spirit
within Structure. In other words, Life is the fact that God is good.

So Structure appears as the means of the Spirit going beyond itself.
The question is: Would the Spirit be such even if it was isolated from
itself? Structure is that form of isolation, the System within which
the Spirit can be placed. To place Spirit within System requires Slack.
Then the point is to show that Slack is connected with Everything,
that Good is connected with God. But Anything is what connects
Everything with Slack; Life is what connects God with good.

I want to show how step by step structure unfolds through an operation
+1. I've noticed that the properties of everything are given by the
representations of the onesome:

* has no external context
* is the simplest algorithm (accepts all things)
* has no internal structure
* is a required concept

There is a subtle distinction between the nullsome (the division of
everything into zero perspectives) and the onesome (the division of
everything into one perspectives). The former is that which, in some
sense, is beyond the system. The latter is expressed within the system.
When we consider "everything" it may be an "example" of everything.
As an example, it is the onesome, but as itself, it is the nullsome. As
an example, it has representations, ways that it can be thought.
Whereas, as the nullsome, these are is properties. Therefore:

the properties of the nullsome = the representations of the onesome

But likewise, we may look at the representations of the nullsome: true,
direct, constant, significant. These are the properties of God. So we
may conclude:

the properties of God = the representations of the nullsome

And this lets us say that God has no representations, only properties.
It also suggests:

* the properties of the onesome = the representations of the twosome
* the properties of the twosome = the representations of the threesome
* the properties of the threesome = the representations of the foursome
* the properties of the foursome = the representations of the fivesome
* the properties of the fivesome = the representations of the sixsome
* the properties of the sixsome = the representations of the sevensome

And perhaps:

* the properties of the sevensome = the representations of good

where perhaps good has no properties. And then we might work backwards
through all of the structures and conclude that God is good.

What is the difference between properties and representations?

Representations are different ways of looking at the same thing.
Properties are the qualities that something unites within itself.f

In the case of divisions of everything (into perspectives), we have that
each representation adds an extra perspective. Furthermore, the
representation itself may be considered as having an additional
perspective that looks upon the structure. So the representation
includes two perspectives, one explicit, as part of the division, and an
associated one that is implicit, as the vantage point upon the division.
And these associated perspectives both are vantage points for
"unification". They are the unifying views, both inside and outside,
the points of coinciding between the inside and the outside. If
something directly has a property, then it need not be seen. But if it
is to be seen, then this must be so within a system, with comprehensive
vantage points inside and outside the system.

Coherence is the unity of representations: for example, God is the unity
of the representations of everything; God is the coherence of
everything. The properties of God are the representations of
everything, that means that the properties are what God is unifying.
What God unifies is the ways of looking at everything.

So, starting with God, we can ask: what does God unify? What does God
bring together? That is a way of going beyond God, and it is the way of
introducing structure. For about each structure we can then ask, What
does it unify? What does it bring together?

God holds together everything, the nullsome. What holds together the
nullsome? The onesome, and so on. What does this mean?

Is everything more than God? or less than God?

It's a strange question because it may be a bit of either. If God is
the coherence of everything, that which unifies everything and holds it
together, then:
* God need not be coherent himself, and in that sense, everything is
less than God.
* Everything need not be coherent, either, and in that sense, everything
is more than God.
Hmmm.

I had earlier had some related thoughts about the Trinity:
* God the Father is the coherence of God.
* God the Son is the coherence of everything.
* the Holy Spirit is the coherence of coherence.

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2014 birželio 07 d., 10:34 atliko Andrius Kulikauskas -

Pridėtos 1-9 eilutės:

PropertiesOfEverything, PropertiesOfGod, Qualities, {{Everything}}

Properties
* allow reference, as in issues of self-reference and being
* are the effects that vantage points have on their object
* express the conditions in Freedom by establishing when an object is the same
* distinguish for its object what stays the same
* distinguish between nonsystemic essence (ground) and its systemic manifestation (extent), whose relationship of actuality gives the intensity of God's and NotGod's relationship
* are being one's Self, thus not being alone.

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