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See also: Spirit, Distinction

Indistinction is Spirit.

Within System God is Indistinction, which is to say, Spirit, which is Complete. Everything else is the Distinction of Indistinction, that is, Indistinction in Contexts. Indistinction drives the unfolding, the persisting and the collapse of Distinction. Indistinction is Spirit. Distinction is System.


See also: BeingOneWith, {{Structure}}, {{Activity}}, {{Unity}}, {{Perspective}}


Spirit is:

===Examples of Spirit===

===Thoughts and Letters===

DavidKankiewicz: Andrius,

You asked at the end of your attached message: What is the spirit? That which gives wholeness?

The spirit is what is normally not seen, the connections in the darkness, the now's past, or the realization of how we are so dependent on each other - the 'why' behind statement; love your neighbor (and enemy) as yourself. If it is left unconnected, we all experience the loss of the potential which is everpresent but hidden, we are left without the love that we can find peace in.

The wholeness is both the spirit and the flesh, the forms and their connections.

In the 'unfolding =..= cohering' list, the connections are the spirit perpetual working to unfold Everything's structure into God's will.

BTW, this suggests a slight rearrangement in the last two on the list: Everything's structure = God's will Everything's choice = God's command

Closer semantics, from my view... The reason for this is the subtle difference in 'will' and 'choice'; where the true structure of everything is God's will and everything's truest choice is God's command. In reality, most people do not have the spirit with them, they miss the many connections that make everything possible. I'd even go as far as to say: God's will and command brings forth God's truest Love, in the unfolding between them and in their coherence humans can experience the peace and glory of Love's true nature... Quality/Potental is manifested (coherence) as glory found only in Love.

I think the blindness to reality (seeing the spirit=connections, God=whole, love=want-of-coherence, etc.) comes from our fear of losing it all and the danger inherent in change... The only thing I wanted was to find/create something 'new' and with my single 'want' I had lost the want for anything else; thus I have nothing to lose and can see - since I had already lost everything and am just lost searching for everything's new beginning through every old connection.

Haplessly... They are just words to me, verberated harmonics within an empty mind.......... I hope you can gain something from them!

Regards, David C. Kankiewicz

===What is spirit?===


I've been wondering, What is spirit?

I got a helpful reply from James at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lovingGod/, he directed me to Baker's Theological Dictionary, presumed copyright. So I share my question, and my thoughts, also with our working group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/consideringGod/

The aspect of spirit that I think is core is its "unhinderedness". As Jesus spoke to Nicodemus, "the wind blows wherever it pleases". You can't tell where it comes, and where it goes.

Spirit is also that which is more than the sum of the parts. I think, though, that this is part of it being unhindered. It is that which is free to go beyond the body, or apart from the body.

It dawned on me today that "spirit" is what I mean by "unity of representations", which I have also called "coherence" or "necessity". In particular: - God is the spirit of everything. - Life is the spirit of anything. - Good is the spirit of slack.

For me, "representations" are perspectives which are held from beyond. In the cases above: beyond everything, beyond anything, beyond slack. So if there is a unity of representations, that is quite amazing. It says that it is able to define itself, not merely with regard to itself, (as in the case of structure), but with regard to all that is or might be beyond it. That "unity" is "spirit". And things that have "spirit" are those whose nature is founded beyond itself.

To say that "God is the spirit of everything" is not, I think, a "pantheism". It does not reduce God to everything, but rather, says that God is the foundation for everything that transcends it. It is the coherence of everything, the necessity of everything, which points beyond everything, to the extent that there is or might be anything to point to.

Whereas what I mean by "structure" is that which defines itself. Which is still quite amazing. It involves a "unity of properties" where the properties are perspectives upon itself that can be defined and known by their structural relationships with each other.

Structure is what is possible, spirit is what is necessary. I will think more about the relation between the two. And also about "system". Because "good is the spirit in the system", but also now "good is the spirit of slack". Analogously, "God is spirit" and "God is the spirit of everything". So I want to think of the relationship between system and slack, and between everything as implicit and explicit.

Also, the thought comes up that "spirit", as the unity of representations, helps explain what may be thought to be alive. Consider the moon. It has properties of itself (such as its reflectivity), and representations (such as the sunny portion of the moon). By these thoughts, the moon is "alive" to the extent that there is a unity of its representations, which is to say, it hangs together with regard to the rest of the universe. The moon is, in some sense, not simply a random fleeting collection of molecules. What more is it, then? That is the "spirit" of the moon. That, with regard to everything, it has a coherence, a necessity, it hangs together. And it can do so only by having a life, with all the murkiness of life, regarding boundaries, identity, etc. It is a system with regard to any system that it might find itself within. So I will think more about what is system, and how do they interact?


Older note: AndriusKulikauskas: Here I am thinking of spirit as the inverse of structure, so that {{Everything}} is the structure of {{God}}. Another way to think of spirit is as the {{Unity}} of the {{Representations}} of {{Structure}}. This is I think the human way to think of spirit, but it assumes that the {{Threesome}} is cyclic.

2005.04.09 {{A}}: Koks ry�ys tarp laisvumo ir dvasios bei sandaros? {{D}}: Dvasia gyvena per sandarą. Ji gali sutapti su ja arba nesutapti.

2006.03.18 {{A}}: Kas yra dvasia? {{D}}: Dvasia yra tai, kas yra viena su.

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