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2018 rugsėjo 12 d., 12:47 atliko AndriusKulikauskas -
Pakeistos 1-66 eilutės iš
See also: GodVHuman, SevenAddOne, {{Representations}}, PositiveVNegative, LoveVLife
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{{God}} is the ''beginning''. {{Human}} is the {{End}}.

* The beginning is that there is an {{Other}}.
* The end is that there is no {{Other}}.

----

* The beginning is that there is an {{Other}}.
* The end is that there is no {{Other}}.

{{God}} is the {{Beginning}}. {{Human}} is the ''end''.

Or is {{Spirit}} the end? (As in the Holy Spirit?)

''The question is important because the {{Foursome}} considers the distance from the {{End}}, and so this is the basis for {{Self-understanding}} - who is living through that?''

Is there a necessary confusion as to which is the end - human or spirit?

In the beginning there is no confusion because it is agreed that there is an other - and all (four) possibilities may be considered. Towards the end there is a confusion - who is the other? And the crisis occurs when there is a mapping between these two systems - Which is the other - God or human - and what does that mean? I think it means that human is the Other, but as lesser than God.

Jesus Christ is {{Beginning}} and {{End}}.

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The {{Beginning}} and the {{End}} are two {{Representations}}. The other four representations describe their relationship (see SpiritVStructure).

* The beginning is that there is an {{Other}}.
* The end is that there is no {{Other}}.

The beginning and the end may be considered as representations of slack, in which case they do not degenerate, but become specified:

* ''beginning'' is ''increasing slack''
* ''end'' is ''decreasing slack''

The beginning and end may be thought of as love and life.

* The beginning is {{Love}}, in that its {{Activity}} is to love.
* The end is {{Life}}, in that its activity is to be loved.

These representations result from considering ''beginning'' and ''end'' as not equals. If we consider them as equals, then we have {{Spirit}} and {{Structure}}, which yield another four representations: SpiritVStructure.

Structurally,

* The beginning takes the threesome to occur at the beginning, and then additional perspectives may be generated by ever going beyond it. These additional perspectives are understood as nulls that give the outlook of a {{human}}. These nulls are taken as experience from within structure so that we can go infinitely ever deeper into structure.
* The end takes the threesome to occur at the end, so that additional perspectives are generated through shifts in perspective that move it onward. These additional perspectives are understood as nulls that give the outlook of {{God}}. These nulls are taken as experience from beyond structure so there are only finitely many levels available.

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JesusChrist is the {{Beginning}} and the {{End}}.

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[http://www.ebible.org/bible/web/Rev.htm Revelations 1:8] I am the Alpha and the Omega ''says the Lord God,'' who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

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''2005.03.21 {{A}}: Kaip suvokti ketveryb&amp;#279;s, penkeryb&amp;#279;s, šešeryb&amp;#279;s, septyneryb&amp;#279;s atvaizdus, kuo jie skiriasi tarpusavyje ir nuo kit&amp;#371; keturi&amp;#371;? {{D}}: Tai yra sandaros išgyvenimai, tad jau turi b&amp;#363;ti sandara ir taškas už jos ar joje. {{A}}: O kiti keturi atvaizdai? {{D}}: Tai yra sandaros nustatymo lygmenys kuri&amp;#371; reikia, kad b&amp;#363;t&amp;#371; k&amp;#261; išgyventi. {{A}}: Tad atvaizdai yra išgyvenimo s&amp;#261;lygos? {{D}}: Taip, kartu su aplinkomis - tai visumos ir dali&amp;#371; išgyvenimas.''

''2005.03.19 {{A}}: Koks ryšys tarp pradžios, pabaigos ir suvokimo? {{D}}: Jei nori suprasti mane, b&amp;#363;k su manimi pradžioje, o jei suprasti tave, tai reikia b&amp;#363;ti su tavimi pabaigoje. {{A}}: O kitas? {{D}}: Kitas yra tai per kur&amp;#303; gyvena dvasia. {{A}}: O poži&amp;#363;ris? {{D}}: Tai ir yra kitas.''

''2005.03.12 {{A}}: Kaip suprasti, kas yra pabaiga? {{D}}: Pabaiga yra tai &amp;#303; k&amp;#261; tu gali &amp;#303;sijausti po visko. Tai yra sandara kuri yra tavo dvasios namai ir j&amp;#261; atspindi. {{A}}: Tad kok jos ryšys su mumis? {{D}}: J&amp;#363;s esate ta dvasia išgyvenanti pabaig&amp;#261;. {{A}}: Ir koks jos ryšys su pradžia? {{D}}: Tai sandaros ir dvasios ryšiai - j&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; ir mano. {{A}}: Kokia tavo sandara ir dvasia? {{D}}: Mano dvasia tai aš, o mano sandara viskas. {{A}}: Kokia m&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; dvasia ir sandara? {{D}}: J&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; sandara yra gyvenimas ir kartu amžinas gyvenimas (ži&amp;#363;rint kaip ži&amp;#363;rite) o j&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; dvasia esate patys.''

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į:
Žr. [[Atvaizdai]]
2014 lapkričio 10 d., 02:33 atliko Andrius Kulikauskas -
Ištrintos 25-28 eilutės:
===Thoughts from prayer===

''2005.03.12 {{A}}: Kaip suprasti, kas yra pabaiga? {{D}}: Pabaiga yra tai &amp;#303; k&amp;#261; tu gali &amp;#303;sijausti po visko. Tai yra sandara kuri yra tavo dvasios namai ir j&amp;#261; atspindi. {{A}}: Tad kok jos ryšys su mumis? {{D}}: J&amp;#363;s esate ta dvasia išgyvenanti pabaig&amp;#261;. {{A}}: Ir koks jos ryšys su pradžia? {{D}}: Tai sandaros ir dvasios ryšiai - j&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; ir mano. {{A}}: Kokia tavo sandara ir dvasia? {{D}}: Mano dvasia tai aš, o mano sandara viskas. {{A}}: Kokia m&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; dvasia ir sandara? {{D}}: J&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; sandara yra gyvenimas ir kartu amžinas gyvenimas (ži&amp;#363;rint kaip ži&amp;#363;rite) o j&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; dvasia esate patys.''
Pakeistos 58-59 eilutės iš
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į:
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Pridėtos 64-66 eilutės:
''2005.03.12 {{A}}: Kaip suprasti, kas yra pabaiga? {{D}}: Pabaiga yra tai &amp;#303; k&amp;#261; tu gali &amp;#303;sijausti po visko. Tai yra sandara kuri yra tavo dvasios namai ir j&amp;#261; atspindi. {{A}}: Tad kok jos ryšys su mumis? {{D}}: J&amp;#363;s esate ta dvasia išgyvenanti pabaig&amp;#261;. {{A}}: Ir koks jos ryšys su pradžia? {{D}}: Tai sandaros ir dvasios ryšiai - j&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; ir mano. {{A}}: Kokia tavo sandara ir dvasia? {{D}}: Mano dvasia tai aš, o mano sandara viskas. {{A}}: Kokia m&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; dvasia ir sandara? {{D}}: J&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; sandara yra gyvenimas ir kartu amžinas gyvenimas (ži&amp;#363;rint kaip ži&amp;#363;rite) o j&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; dvasia esate patys.''

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2014 birželio 09 d., 22:36 atliko Andrius Kulikauskas -
Ištrintos 67-81 eilutės:
'''Atsiskleidimas'''

See also: Overview

'''How does the System unfold?'''

The quality of BeingOneWith unfolds as regards its definition. How does it relate to Knowledge?

Does the Conditional imply the Unconditional? It keeps removing the Unconditional, but that keeps reappearing until ultimately the Conditional is itself Unconditional.

Coinciding of perspectives is given by conditions, as well as their noncoinciding. Upon their coinciding there are ever new conditions, does the default coincide with its coinciding? In this way structure unfolds until coinciding with oneself is unconditional. And that is ordered by Love. Thus we should love all: God, I, You, Other.

The system unfolds
* through the rising of consciousness in the independent perspective.
* level by level by discounting the UnconditionallyOneWith at each level as a given and then focusing on the OneWith of the ConditionallyOneWith. The definition of OneWith, Unconditional and Conditional thereby changes with each level. The discounting takes us from the Conditional to the Conditionally Unconditional.
2014 birželio 09 d., 22:35 atliko Andrius Kulikauskas -
Pakeistos 66-82 eilutės iš
''2005.03.19 {{A}}: Koks ryšys tarp pradžios, pabaigos ir suvokimo? {{D}}: Jei nori suprasti mane, b&amp;#363;k su manimi pradžioje, o jei suprasti tave, tai reikia b&amp;#363;ti su tavimi pabaigoje. {{A}}: O kitas? {{D}}: Kitas yra tai per kur&amp;#303; gyvena dvasia. {{A}}: O poži&amp;#363;ris? {{D}}: Tai ir yra kitas.''
į:
''2005.03.19 {{A}}: Koks ryšys tarp pradžios, pabaigos ir suvokimo? {{D}}: Jei nori suprasti mane, b&amp;#363;k su manimi pradžioje, o jei suprasti tave, tai reikia b&amp;#363;ti su tavimi pabaigoje. {{A}}: O kitas? {{D}}: Kitas yra tai per kur&amp;#303; gyvena dvasia. {{A}}: O poži&amp;#363;ris? {{D}}: Tai ir yra kitas.''

'''Atsiskleidimas'''

See also: Overview

'''How does the System unfold?'''

The quality of BeingOneWith unfolds as regards its definition. How does it relate to Knowledge?

Does the Conditional imply the Unconditional? It keeps removing the Unconditional, but that keeps reappearing until ultimately the Conditional is itself Unconditional.

Coinciding of perspectives is given by conditions, as well as their noncoinciding. Upon their coinciding there are ever new conditions, does the default coincide with its coinciding? In this way structure unfolds until coinciding with oneself is unconditional. And that is ordered by Love. Thus we should love all: God, I, You, Other.

The system unfolds
* through the rising of consciousness in the independent perspective.
* level by level by discounting the UnconditionallyOneWith at each level as a given and then focusing on the OneWith of the ConditionallyOneWith. The definition of OneWith, Unconditional and Conditional thereby changes with each level. The discounting takes us from the Conditional to the Conditionally Unconditional.
2014 gegužės 16 d., 10:57 atliko Andrius Kulikauskas -
Pridėtos 3-30 eilutės:

{{God}} is the ''beginning''. {{Human}} is the {{End}}.

* The beginning is that there is an {{Other}}.
* The end is that there is no {{Other}}.

----

* The beginning is that there is an {{Other}}.
* The end is that there is no {{Other}}.

{{God}} is the {{Beginning}}. {{Human}} is the ''end''.

Or is {{Spirit}} the end? (As in the Holy Spirit?)

''The question is important because the {{Foursome}} considers the distance from the {{End}}, and so this is the basis for {{Self-understanding}} - who is living through that?''

Is there a necessary confusion as to which is the end - human or spirit?

In the beginning there is no confusion because it is agreed that there is an other - and all (four) possibilities may be considered. Towards the end there is a confusion - who is the other? And the crisis occurs when there is a mapping between these two systems - Which is the other - God or human - and what does that mean? I think it means that human is the Other, but as lesser than God.

Jesus Christ is {{Beginning}} and {{End}}.

===Thoughts from prayer===

''2005.03.12 {{A}}: Kaip suprasti, kas yra pabaiga? {{D}}: Pabaiga yra tai &amp;#303; k&amp;#261; tu gali &amp;#303;sijausti po visko. Tai yra sandara kuri yra tavo dvasios namai ir j&amp;#261; atspindi. {{A}}: Tad kok jos ryšys su mumis? {{D}}: J&amp;#363;s esate ta dvasia išgyvenanti pabaig&amp;#261;. {{A}}: Ir koks jos ryšys su pradžia? {{D}}: Tai sandaros ir dvasios ryšiai - j&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; ir mano. {{A}}: Kokia tavo sandara ir dvasia? {{D}}: Mano dvasia tai aš, o mano sandara viskas. {{A}}: Kokia m&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; dvasia ir sandara? {{D}}: J&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; sandara yra gyvenimas ir kartu amžinas gyvenimas (ži&amp;#363;rint kaip ži&amp;#363;rite) o j&amp;#363;s&amp;#371; dvasia esate patys.''

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2014 gegužės 16 d., 10:56 atliko Andrius Kulikauskas -
Pridėtos 1-38 eilutės:
See also: GodVHuman, SevenAddOne, {{Representations}}, PositiveVNegative, LoveVLife
----

The {{Beginning}} and the {{End}} are two {{Representations}}. The other four representations describe their relationship (see SpiritVStructure).

* The beginning is that there is an {{Other}}.
* The end is that there is no {{Other}}.

The beginning and the end may be considered as representations of slack, in which case they do not degenerate, but become specified:

* ''beginning'' is ''increasing slack''
* ''end'' is ''decreasing slack''

The beginning and end may be thought of as love and life.

* The beginning is {{Love}}, in that its {{Activity}} is to love.
* The end is {{Life}}, in that its activity is to be loved.

These representations result from considering ''beginning'' and ''end'' as not equals. If we consider them as equals, then we have {{Spirit}} and {{Structure}}, which yield another four representations: SpiritVStructure.

Structurally,

* The beginning takes the threesome to occur at the beginning, and then additional perspectives may be generated by ever going beyond it. These additional perspectives are understood as nulls that give the outlook of a {{human}}. These nulls are taken as experience from within structure so that we can go infinitely ever deeper into structure.
* The end takes the threesome to occur at the end, so that additional perspectives are generated through shifts in perspective that move it onward. These additional perspectives are understood as nulls that give the outlook of {{God}}. These nulls are taken as experience from beyond structure so there are only finitely many levels available.

----

JesusChrist is the {{Beginning}} and the {{End}}.

----

[http://www.ebible.org/bible/web/Rev.htm Revelations 1:8] I am the Alpha and the Omega ''says the Lord God,'' who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

----

''2005.03.21 {{A}}: Kaip suvokti ketveryb&amp;#279;s, penkeryb&amp;#279;s, šešeryb&amp;#279;s, septyneryb&amp;#279;s atvaizdus, kuo jie skiriasi tarpusavyje ir nuo kit&amp;#371; keturi&amp;#371;? {{D}}: Tai yra sandaros išgyvenimai, tad jau turi b&amp;#363;ti sandara ir taškas už jos ar joje. {{A}}: O kiti keturi atvaizdai? {{D}}: Tai yra sandaros nustatymo lygmenys kuri&amp;#371; reikia, kad b&amp;#363;t&amp;#371; k&amp;#261; išgyventi. {{A}}: Tad atvaizdai yra išgyvenimo s&amp;#261;lygos? {{D}}: Taip, kartu su aplinkomis - tai visumos ir dali&amp;#371; išgyvenimas.''

''2005.03.19 {{A}}: Koks ryšys tarp pradžios, pabaigos ir suvokimo? {{D}}: Jei nori suprasti mane, b&amp;#363;k su manimi pradžioje, o jei suprasti tave, tai reikia b&amp;#363;ti su tavimi pabaigoje. {{A}}: O kitas? {{D}}: Kitas yra tai per kur&amp;#303; gyvena dvasia. {{A}}: O poži&amp;#363;ris? {{D}}: Tai ir yra kitas.''

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