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Mieli dalyviai! Visa mano kūryba ir kartu visi šie puslapiai yra visuomenės turtas, kuriuo visi kviečiami laisvai naudotis, dalintis, visaip perkurti. - Andrius

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Gyvenimas, tai Dievo gerumas. Amžinas gyvenimas, tai suvokimas, jog Dievas nebūtinai geras.

Didėjantis laisvumas: Dievas nebūtinai geras. Mažėjantis laisvumas: Dievas būtinai geras.

Gyvenimo lygtis turi keturis skirtingumo suvokimo lygmenis:

  • understanding: gyvenimas ir amžinas gyvenimas
  • (self understanding): betkas ir išmintis
  • Susikalbėjimas (shared understanding): pasirinkimas ir gera valia
  • (good understanding): valia ir Dievo valia

Juos skiria pasiklydę vaikai (Dievo požiūris į žmogaus požiūrį ir t.t.)

Gyvenimo lygtis skiria: A, B, A IR B, A AR B. Gal B yra NE A, tai yra, A santvarkoje.

Gyvenimo lygtis išdėsto, įvairiuose lygmenyse: gyvenimas, tai Dievo gerumas, bet amžinas gyvenimas yra to teiginio suvokimas, tai yra, Dievo ir gerumo atskyrimas.

Ši lygtis sieja keturis asmenis: Dievą, Mane, Tave, Kitą. Aš esu Dievas santvarkoje. Tu sieji Dievą ir Mane. Kitas atskiria Dievą ir Mane.

Ši lygtis galioje keturiuose lygmenyse: dvasios, sandaros, atvaizdų ir vienybės.

Esmė apima visas savybes. Tad esmė yra savybių vieningumas, o savybės yra atvaizdai.

There is no other when Unity and Spirit are taken to be the same. This is the case from the perspective of the End.

Gyvenimo lygtis bene susijusi su matematikos priešpastatymais, taip pat ir su sandarų šeimomis bei su pirminėmis sandaromis:

  • Dievas - lygis ir metalygis - nesilaikymas santvarkos - išėjimas už savęs - poreikiai
  • Aš - paprastas ir sudėtingas - įvedimas į santvarką - visaregis - dvejonės
  • Tu - loginė seka - pagrindimas ir išvada - susieti sąsaja - pirminės sandaros - jausminiai atsiliepimai
  • Kitas - žymė ir pažymėtas - atskirti, priskirti dviem skirtingiems iš keturių lygmenų - antrinės sandaros - aštuongubis kelias

Kristus išgydė neregį. Blogis yra dėl to, kad reikštųsi Dievo darbai. Laisvumas yra raiškos atskyrimas nuo to, kas yra, kaip kad tiesoje, tikrovėje.

Atleisk mums mūsų kaltes... atleidžiam Dievui, kaip jis atleidžia mums.

See also: Overview, Understanding ===From {{Life}} to EternalLife===

If we presume that God is good, then goodness is prior to God, thus greater than God, so that God is simply the essence of goodness, and actually goodness is God. This is the view of Life: life is the fact that God is good. However, if we do not presume that God is good, then his goodness is simply his explicit nature within our context, and so God and good are separate, and we ourselves are raised above context, as in EternalLife.

When God looks through us, so that God is Observer, then what that observer sees through us is a system which we define, and so he see himself within the system, which is good. So he is linked to himself - God and good - and that is life.

We are realized as he delves deeper into the system - first as life, then as anything (which can take up the structure of the onesome, twosome, threesome...), then as choosing (as by the seventh perspective), then as will (as God's possibility within us). In this way our subjectivity increases and becomes complete.

At that point we are able to think of God as not within us, but as beyond us, greater than us, as Observer. Thus we have God's will, which serves as our anchor. We are able to separate the Observed from the good that observes him. Then - increasingly objectively - we have good will (the angles for approaching God), and wisdom (the truth of the heart instead of the world) and finally eternal life (the wholeness of God's point of view in the secondary structures).

So God as Observer is integrated with the good that he observes, whereas God as Observed is separated from the good that observes him. Note that the latter explains why eternal life has to do with the independent testimony (worship, praise, challenge) of God.

Note: The fourth equation of life is: Will is the Essential in Love. (Here In is the opposite of Of in the first equation. Instead of going into the system, we extend outside of the system.)


Four levels of access

See also: Overview ===Four levels===

There are four level of access between God as Observer and God as Observed: nothing, something, anything and everything. God as Observer is the one beyond any system who derives Human as he goes beyond himself. So as this God enters the system we have: God, everything, wishing, love. But also, Human is God within system, and this Human pulls away from himself and thereby opens up room for God. As Human pulling away from himself, he is making separate, thus keeping separate God and good, thus allowing for God beyond system, and manifesting himself as God within system. This means that we can think of Human as beyond system as: God's will, good will, wisdom and eternal life. These all are expressions of Human who has gone beyond the system and hence is one with God. This sequence starts with complete deference and ends with complete coinciding of God and human. The complete deference to God's will shows that even when there is no access between God and human, it is possible for them to be connected by way of human's submission to God. Then the access opens up, so that good will is access by way of something - a channel for good, and wisdom is access by way of anything - a point to focus around, and finally eternal life is access by way of everything. Meanwhile, life (as the goodness of God) is the fact that Human can be as such within a system, and thus not comparable to God, but simply a creation of God. Whereas eternal life has him as a creator, a co-creator along with God. And good is the "system" which distinguishes these possibilities and relates God and human.

We have human's view of God's view whereby human's view goes beyond themselves to take up God's view. We have God's view of human's view whereby God's view goes beyond himself to take up human's view. How can they coincide? We have four levels of access so that the two may be considered as seeing the same. God as Observer and God as Observed can be in harmony.

Four levels of access

GodsWill means that God as Observer has access through us. GoodWill means that we open such access to God. EternalLife means that God as Observed has access through us. {{Wisdom}} means that we open such access to God.

EternalLife

Eternal life is making evident the system that separates God outside of us, and God within us, and the gaps in between. This is when God within us and God beyond us observe each other. In order to observe each other, they must be separate from each other.

{{Freedom}} vs. {{Perfection}}

Freedom is perfection and is thus the complement of love. When we are perfect, then we are free, and when we are free, then we are perfect. I need to think about the four levels and how they express our system and our freedom and how we relate God outside of us and God within us.

{{Freedom}}

Freedom is that by which the one who loves and the one who is loved may coincide regarding their views. The more they are separate, the more freedom there is. If they have no connection, then they are most separate. Freedom is perfection, but understood from to point of view of God's will. Perfection is extreme freedom, when it is completely collapsed, yet still free.

The four layers are the extent to which this equation holds as given by the level of access, all the way up to Love instead of God.

God loves through our freedom. We share freedom and that is how we can coincide through restrictions on our freedom. That is related to truth.

{{Love}} and {{Life}}

Love is that support by which we can look through God's eyes. Life is that we thereby see, and eternal life is that we thereby look.

We are that by which there is love and life, eternal life and endless love.

{{Love}} and {{Good}}

Love is that which introduces good when there is yet no system, hence no bad. And that good is always with God.

The four levels also give the range of truth, from soft to hard.

We are most at our self when we are free, and we are most unobstructed when we are good. Perhaps there are eight names for the QualityWithoutAName, and they give four levels with regard to our familiarity (our self), and also with regard to our unobstruction (our view). This leads to pairs such as free and perfect, slack and exact.

The unity of our view is expressed by God as observer, and the completeness of our view is expressed by God as observed. They are related by what is familiar to us, and they stand distinct from that in that they are unobstructed. Our role is to clear the way for what is familiar. The observer's love and the observed's life are related by way of the access that we provide. They are fully related when there is such access in every way.

The observer contributes {{Understanding}}, which is the nature of love and the practice of life. The observer ever goes beyond themselves by taking up a view outside itself. The observer's understanding holds these views all separate. In the chain of views, God's view stays the same, but human's view evolves.

The observed contributes {{Structure}}, which is the nature of life and the practice of love. The observed is ever reinterpreted in a new way that coincides with all the previous ways. The observer's structure holds these views all together. In the chain of reinterpretations, human's view stays the same, but God's view evolves.

Understanding keeps the views different as they unfold so that there can be access in every way. Structure holds together the different views as applying to the same life.

We open up four kinds of access for God:

  • God's will clears the way for love
  • good will clears the way for wishing, which is the good heart
  • wisdom clears the way for everything
  • eternal life clears the way for God

(Relate these with everything, anything, something, nothing).

To know everything is for the human view and God's view to coincide. Such coinciding is central to love. This is the point of Jesus Christ. It occurs in its own way at each of the four levels, where God appears on both sides of each level, and taken together gives both God inside and God outside:

  • God and human coincide as observer, as in eternal life - and this God is the same as the God who views a SecondaryStructure as a whole. Hence when we take up this God's view (as when we experience a part of a secondary structure) then that is what God views in the knowledge of everything. God's view of everything is manifested as his view of the whole of any secondary structure.
  • God is also imagined as the onesome, twosome, threesome as divisions of everything, (operations +1, +2, +3), as in wisdom - and this by the Other who gives the counterresponses which define the PrimaryStructures
  • God is also imagined as the slack, the goodness, inherent in the factoring of the secondary structures, and the seventh perspective as the ideal human, making way with good will - and this by the God who views the omniscope in all its angles.
  • God is also what we view into which all structure collapses, as when we submit to God's will - and this God is the same as the God which God himself observes

The balance between God inside and God outside shifts according to whether they have access to each other by way of nothing, something, anything or everything. Taken all together there is complete coinciding.

The equation of EternalLife relates the two, the nature of love and of life, at four levels of access ({{Everything}}, {{Anything}}, {{Something}}, {{Nothing}}), which define the four primary structures. The secondary structures ensure that these primary structures are distinct. The four equations are:

  • The operating principles allow us to see (life) through God's eyes, and be seen through his eyes (eternal life) - but this is the God who lies within us.
  • The counterquestions allow us to see through another's eyes (anything), and be seen through their eyes (wisdom) - but this is the other within us.
  • The directions to the good allow us to see (choosing) through another's eyes, and be seen (good will) through their eyes - this is the other beyond us.
  • The life choices (the eightfold way) allow us to see (will) through God's eyes, and be seen (God's will) through his eyes - this is God beyond us.

How do they relate to God's perspective as it carries across the nature of love and the nature of life and relates them?

Note that human view of God's view is the recurring element for composing both the nature of love and the nature of life, and that it combines (human) life and (God's) love in the most atomic way.

GoodWill

Always show good will - here the emphasis is on show, reaching out to another so that they might see - this is perhaps the equation of life for one of the four levels, the one for good will.

Key is that we allow those gaps to serve others, so that we make way for them, and we might all be one. We don't presume that God is good, but rather we participate to make that be the case. Think about the importance of "making way for others" in eternal life, as God makes way for Jesus, and Jesus makes way for us.

It seems that the equations for eternal life are based on God as observed (through the omniscope, etc.) whereas the equations for life are based on God as observer (through divisions, etc.) Life is driven by static structures (divisions, representations, topologies) and eternal life is driven by dynamic structures (the three languages).

Note: consider God as observed as chaos, and God as observer as order. So this is a relationship between chaos and order. And compare this with theater and the two Russian acting schools of Michail Chekhov (fantastical, logical) and Stanislovsky (psychological). (Thank you to Rimas Morkunas).

When God is observer, then God coincides with good, he coincides with us, he goes beyond himself, into the bounded, and so this is life. He lives as the bounded. But when God is observed, then he is separate from good, we coincide with him, we go beyond ourselves to him, to the unbounded, and that is eternal life. We live as the unbounded. He waits for us.

{{Order}}, {{Chaos}}, {{Freedom}}

Love is based in order, whereas God is based in freedom. Freedom is the possibility to go beyond chaos. God has us look beyond ourselves.

{{Access}}, {{Coinciding}}

We provide access to God to himself, either {{Everything}}, {{Anything}}, {{Something}}, {{Nothing}}. He is both within our system and beyond our system, and we provide him access to himself. The greater the access, the less he is separated from himself, accordingly by nothing, something, anything, everything. The amount of access gives the extent to which he coincides with us. As God and good he does not coincide with us, but as love and perfection he coincides with us completely.

{{Subjectivity}} vs. {{Objectivity}}

So the four levels express how we appear as the observational planes that God finds himself within. When the plane is nothing, then we are looking at ourselves as if from the side, as if objectively, so that God and good stand alone, and they are linked by life and separated by eternal life, and subjectively it's as if we're not there. Whereas love and perfection make sense by way of our subjectivity, and they are linked by our will and separated by God's will, and so that is taking place through our subjective experience. And so wishing and identifying make sense by way of the potential for our subjectivity, and they are linked by our choosing and separated by good will. And everything and slack make sense by way of the potential for our objectivity, and they are linked by anything and separated by wisdom. This suggests that the path from life to eternal life (yielding an eightfold way) has us develop our subjective self, which places the matter squarely before us - our will vs. God's will - allowing us to switch over to separating God and good rather than presuming they are linked. And then we can remove our subjectivity. But switching over is possible at every level, yet the matter is most pronounced to us subjectively when it is stated subjectively. This is the relationship between two lines: God as Observed (God) and God as Observer (good) and whether they are linked or separate. By separating them, we acknowledge the primacy of God as Observed who is prior to us and greater than us. And we are able to coincide with the God the Observer who looks through us, and by way of him, with God the Observed, so that we are all one.

Consider the extent the meaning of the four levels of access, including the extent to which love can be shared by God and human (perhaps greater the more "aware" that a person is, which is to say, the more engrossed they are in the views, thus the more stretched, the more having gone beyond, outside oneself) and how that allows for a switch between the outlook of "observer" and "observed" (by going beyond oneself) to an ever greater extent, and the question of what is in the way between the observer and observed outlooks, and how the equations of eternal life open up room to clear the way.

In the nature of love, God stays the same, but his and human's views are ever different along the chain. In the nature of life, the views ever coincide but God ever changes. What are the windows that God is opening up? They seem to be such that they allow for invertibility of the view or perhaps simply commutation. Note that the nature of life and the nature of love may each be thought of representations of the foursome for which the nulls are given by that level where God and human coincide. Thus, in the nature of love, the null is whether and we have what, how, why; and in the nature of life, the null is why, and we have how, what, whether.

In the nature of love, God and human's view are separated by nothing (thus a null, they are one - God as observer), something, anything or everything. In the nature of life, God and human's view coincide across nothing, something, anything, everything (thus a null, they are one - God as observed). At each level - everything, anything, something, nothing - are what relates God as observer (in terms of his separation from human) and God as observed (in terms of his coinciding with human). Human is the slack by which there is both separation and coinciding.

The relationship between God and human is thus one of increasing closeness and warmth. Human and God are related:

  • first by life and eternal life
  • then by anything and wisdom
  • then by choosing and good will
  • finally by will and God's will

So it is an ever stronger relationship of ever greater love and ever more intensely defined, internalized life. These are the chapters in the story of "knowing everything" and they lead us to a subordinate perspective where we take up God's will and live by that. And to do that means to be open and clear to all four levels? Is it cumulative?

  • Related by way of nothing (wishes for nothing) The operating principles allow us to see (life) through God's eyes, and be seen through his eyes (eternal life) - but this is the God who lies within us.
  • Related by way of something (wishes for something): The counterquestions allow us to see through another's eyes (anything), and be seen through their eyes (wisdom) - but this is the other within us.
  • Related by way of anything (wishes for anything): The directions to the good allow us to see (choosing) through another's eyes, and be seen (good will) through their eyes - this is the other beyond us.
  • Related by way of everything (wishes for everything): The life choices (the eightfold way) allow us to see (will) through God's eyes, and be seen (God's will) through his eyes - this is God beyond us.

The nature of love describes how unity reaches out from God as an observer, and the nature of life describes how concreteness reaches in from God as an observed. The four equations relate these two developments so that unity and completeness are joined together. This means that "knowledge of everything" allows the general view as given by God as the observer, to be placed in the most narrow and remote particular situation, which is found to be just a reinterpretation of the general situation. So we can move from God (God as observer) to good (God as observed).

Human is a learner (what you believe is what happens) and God is a teacher (what you find is what you love). I should focus on the relationship between the seventh and eighth perspectives, between human and God.

Pabaiga

===I wish to know everything and apply that usefully.===

AndriusKulikauskas: Note, the following is is a bit old! For my latest thinking see UniversalLanguage/Overview

I have prepared for this for most of my childhood, and worked on this for all my life as an adult. These last twenty-two years I have observed and collected a wide variety of structures. My starting point is God, and the related concept of everything. My ending point is life, as the fact that God is good.

I've always had trouble writing up my thoughts because they are murky, but even worse, they want to spin out in all directions. And I can't prove much of anything, although that's not my goal, either.

I've found a natural point of convergence, a conclusion from which I can work backwards and lead to all the structures that I know of. My conclusion is:

"Life is the fact that God is good". Or more simply, "Life is the goodness of God".

Starting from just one conclusion: "Life is the goodness of God", I am able to explore "life", "goodness", "God", "is", etc. and work backwards, what do I mean? It's the conclusion that pulls everything together that I've been working on, and I find it attractive and natural. It leaves enormous room for clarification, elaboration. But it also works as a conclusion, in that I'm willing to take my stand here, and I'm able to confess my dogma, what I'll not retreat from. My "core values", so to speak.

There is a greater assertion, which I have drawn from the Gospel of John: "Everlasting life is the understanding that God is good." I am finding that to work from "Life is the goodness of God" is to work backwards, whereas to work with "Endless life is understanding the goodness of God" is to work forwards.

Just as my backwards-looking conclusion reflects my outlook, so it seems that the forwards-looking assertion reflects God's outlook, his venturing outwards to everlasting life. How may my looking back, or yours, find God and take up his looking forwards?

Gyvenimo lygtis primena Toulmino pagrindimo lygtį, keturių požiūrių. O ta lygtis primena Budos keturias taurias tiesas:

In the same way I saw an ancient path, an ancient road, traveled by the Rightly Self-awakened Ones of former times. And what is that ancient path, that ancient road, traveled by the Rightly Self-awakened Ones of former times? Just this noble eightfold path: right view, right aspiration, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration...I followed that path. Following it, I came to direct knowledge of aging & death, direct knowledge of the origination of aging & death, direct knowledge of the cessation of aging & death, direct knowledge of the path leading to the cessation of aging & death...Knowing that directly, I have revealed it to monks, nuns, male lay followers & female lay followers... —Nagara Sutta

Slack variable susiję su Simplex algorithm

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